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nova s39 e07 The Fabric of the Cosmos Quantum Leap

Quantum physics deals with the science of the very small - the very building blocks of matter. However over the last ninety or so years this obscure area of research has shown that the universe is a far stranger place than anybody could imagine. Everything we perceive around us is built of waves of probability and particles that zip in and out of existence. However ITLAD/CTF suggests that it is within this area of research that the very nature of conciousness itself may be understood. Can this be correct? Join in the debate here.

nova s39 e07 The Fabric of the Cosmos Quantum Leap

Postby Derkein » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:14 pm

Unlike the last episode, which seemed to me to be very biased toward Brian Greenes particular personal view on Quantum physics, this episode is more about the core theories, and is very informative, although still leans toward Brians particular viewpoints (understandable as the episodes are based on his book).

For some good descriptions of where quatum theories come from, this is one to watch, but beware of only taking Brians views of what these theories and experiments mean. Think about what they mean yourself.

Quantum physics is drowning in people that accept a viewpoint without even understanding it, and there is an scandalous lack of original thinkers who have the mind and the strength of character to be able to stand up and question fashionable theories.
This can be seen in this episode where leaders in the field actually openly state that they don't understand why, but the equations work. Far too many are working by little more than rote *see lower.

Consider complex mechanical models which pretty accurately showed movements of the planets but where the Earth was the centre of the solar system :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrery

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Rote learning
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Re: nova s39 e07 The Fabric of the Cosmos Quantum Leap

Postby susunia » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:01 am

What is a good book about Quantum Physics for the layman? I would like to learn more about Quantum Physics. I am something of a novice when it comes to science but I'm not an idiot either. Can you recommend a book about Quantum Physics which is both entertaining and informative?
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Re: nova s39 e07 The Fabric of the Cosmos Quantum Leap

Postby Derkein » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:33 am

Hi Susunia,
If you can get them, I would unequivocally recommend the 'Through the wormhole' documentary series. These are very up to date and generally don't have any personal axe to grind. Highly recommended.

The problem with the books is that most 'sell' a particular viewpoint on quantum physics and often completely ignore highly relevant information which does not fit their viewpoint.

an old, outdated but good start is The dancing wu-li masters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dancing_Wu_Li_Masters
(perhaps google "dancing wu li masters pdf") ;)

I certainly didn't and don't agree with all Zukav's views, but it is a good intro to the possible aspects of quantum reality most here are interested in.

I will look through what i have and post a few other recommendations. I assume you want to avoid degree level+ math.

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Re: nova s39 e07 The Fabric of the Cosmos Quantum Leap

Postby Derkein » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:28 pm

You might also want to follow these links copied from an earlier thread.

Lorentz v Einstein special relativity dilation for beginners

Postby Derkein on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:57 pm
I think this is one of the better introductions to these theories I have seen.
Quite straight forward math where used and you can still grasp the concepts without the math.

http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/gravity/gps-twins.asp

I also like this more biased set
http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm
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