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BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Quantum physics deals with the science of the very small - the very building blocks of matter. However over the last ninety or so years this obscure area of research has shown that the universe is a far stranger place than anybody could imagine. Everything we perceive around us is built of waves of probability and particles that zip in and out of existence. However ITLAD/CTF suggests that it is within this area of research that the very nature of conciousness itself may be understood. Can this be correct? Join in the debate here.

BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby Derkein » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:38 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b016bys2

Excellent non-technical and very level headed documentary on the recent experiment at Cern which appeared to have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light which has raised such a buzz here and wordwide..

This documentary is highly informative on many of the main issues without requiring even an O level in physics or maths.

An interesting side point from one of the possible explanations (neutrinos went through 'hyperspace/wormhole) is that if that is so, it may be possible to calculate the curvature of our universe from the difference. It wont accurate as we dont know if the universe is actually a shere, a hypersphere, or a flat(ish) brane, let alone a parabolic brane or one of the more exotic shapes.
... Anybody fancy doing some of the calculations? hehehe
.. and you don't need to understand a word of that to get a great deal from this documentary.

Highly recommended viewing for all.
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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby rafromca » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:23 pm

Sadly I wasn't able to access this from my part of the world. If you see another link let me know. It looks interesting
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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby Derkein » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:46 pm

Hi rafrimca
this might help. I have used these sort of things to access US sites from other countries when they only allow US ISP access.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/access-blo ... y-servers/

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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby Anthony Peake » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:45 pm

DK. I agree, an excellent programme and one well worth watching. Level headed and sensible.

By the way, E.P. Thompson was a lecturer at Warwick when I was there in the early 1970's.
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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby Black Label » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:16 am

Yes that was my take on the show too Anthony. An even handed approach, neither getting too carried away with the implications (though covering them) or resorting to comedic cynisism.

The implications are of course that every instant of 'you' that 'you' experience is a slightly different 'you' from the last instant, all those 'you's' are still there and there are many other 'you's' doing other things in alternate timelines.

This is what the maths says but I'm not sure the British public may be too keen on the idea.
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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby jobsaboba » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:02 am

Black Label wrote:Yes that was my take on the show too Anthony. An even handed approach, neither getting too carried away with the implications (though covering them) or resorting to comedic cynisism.

The implications are of course that every instant of 'you' that 'you' experience is a slightly different 'you' from the last instant, all those 'you's' are still there and there are many other 'you's' doing other things in alternate timelines.

This is what the maths says but I'm not sure the British public may be too keen on the idea.


http://youtu.be/TQPYY00Bvhc ...

shifting through the different yous..... an explanation

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Re: BBC Documentary Faster than the speed of light

Postby Derkein » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:57 pm

Black Label wrote:Yes that was my take on the show too Anthony. An even handed approach, neither getting too carried away with the implications (though covering them) or resorting to comedic cynisism.

The implications are of course that every instant of 'you' that 'you' experience is a slightly different 'you' from the last instant, all those 'you's' are still there and there are many other 'you's' doing other things in alternate timelines.

This is what the maths says but I'm not sure the British public may be too keen on the idea.



I must disagree that what you state is what the math says.
The Math does not differentiate between one universe changing and myriad of static universes....
but neither does it generally differentiate between directions in time...
but nature is usually economical, if many varied, and entire universes for the odd temporary visit is very wasteful

Of course each millisecond each you is a new one. Cells are created, die and are dropped off. The connections and capacitance's in the brain change at even faster rates, and we each interact with a billion new molecules in our environment in each instant.
... but that is a far cry from a single consciousness creating or jumping to a new 'eternity' a billion times a second.

.. nor does either view increase or decrease the wonder of what we are and what we inhabit.
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