The Hypnagogic Light Experience

[wildfiona]

I don't know...for myself, I cannot really dismiss other being/entities, as some part of myself.

In dreaming, I have been with other parts of myself...I have even overlayed other parts of myself with the images of others. But it is something I notice, and I don't tend to call them other beings.

And I have met other beings/entities, like the jellyfly ones. They are not a part of me, they are their own selves.
Just like you guys are your own selves...but life form is not ego.
Maybe it helps to be very clear on what it was, when it is written though.

So if your humanishfly ones, are a part of your own self...then they would not be the same as the jellyflys I have met. But I figured that already.

Well again, as the mystics say, you are part of me and I am part of you... The ego is what keeps us seeing the separateness of the whole... This is very deep thinking and hard to explain in just a few words but if you read about quantum you will see how essentially connected we all are.. not only to the other beings but also to all that exists in the universe.

[Elew]

Yes, I know about the collective, and the cosmic oneness, and very many other things...

But we are not each other...we are also individuals...

The ego discussion comes up alot, and it it usually used to dismiss things such as this. It is not something that I care to go into on the level of 'this makes me right'...

I have been in that discussion many times, and I have also been in the cosmic oneness, and found myself alone. That may be even deeper knowing, beyond the thinking part...but ask a mystic.
Because 'we are all one', does not change the fact that we are individual. And it is not for ego or lack of recognition that individuals are.

The jellyfly beings/entities whom I meet, are not part of me on the individual level...they are their own, just as you are.

[Cochitlehua]

This is very deep thinking?

There probably isn't much use for any kind of thinking in the cosmic oneness. Unless we bring it into form.

Words come after images, and images come after vibrational language.

I agree, in that I don't assign any form creations to EGO. Or in a solipsists view that they are just part of me.

Personally, I feel when people use words like, mystics, shaman, seers, and the like, it is naturally talking from the outside.

[Elew]

I would love to know when this will be readily available on the market for people in the United States. I have suffered from severe depression and anxiety for over 15 years of my life and to think of a life with no medications would be amazing. I checked out the site but saw no information for mass producing this device. I hope that they will decide to mass produce it.

Blessings-
aebish81

Hi aebish,

I believe Tony had mentioned that they may be receiving some funding to produce more of the Lucia3 devices...
I am not really sure of any details, but you may be able to contact them to find out.

I am assuming that unless they made a public version, one that only went up a few levels, then it would have to be administered by someone who understands the neurology, as well as the NDE, and the psychology.

I am not sure though...

[wildfiona]

You saw the top of your head...even if it was in an abstract. Seeing from a point of awareness, or maybe outside of the physical body.

I have seen too, from a higher up in the room, or above myself viewpoint, and have seen what they were doing.
Maybe not everyone would, or not every time...but it can be that way.

Although, I have not done the external DMT, so I could be wrong on that.[/quote]

Yeah, I have floated above myself too but the DMT experience is very different.. I saw the top of my head but everything surrounding me was not of this world or dimension or whatever.. It is difficult to describe. The whole of this 'world' melted away and didn't come back till I opened my eyes. That's why I refer to it as a journey. At least that was what it was like for me.

[wildfiona]

Yes, I know about the collective, and the cosmic oneness, and very many other things...

But we are not each other...we are also individuals...

The ego discussion comes up alot, and it it usually used to dismiss things such as this. It is not something that I care to go into on the level of 'this makes me right'...

I have been in that discussion many times, and I have also been in the cosmic oneness, and found myself alone. That may be even deeper knowing, beyond the thinking part...but ask a mystic.
Because 'we are all one', does not change the fact that we are individual. And it is not for ego or lack of recognition that individuals are.

The jellyfly beings/entities whom I meet, are not part of me on the individual level...they are their own, just as you are.

You are right Elew.. I just find it difficult to find the words that explain my experience, I guess. They 'spoke' to me in my head and I FELT an incredible FEELING of , what I would call, the mystical kind of oneness I have read about.... I didn't feel separate from them although there was no physical contact, as in your case, but it was only what I can describe as being all part of the same cosmic soup..again maybe my words are clichéd but I can't think of a better way of describing my experience.

[wildfiona]

This is very deep thinking?

There probably isn't much use for any kind of thinking in the cosmic oneness. Unless we bring it into form.

Words come after images, and images come after vibrational language.

I agree, in that I don't assign any form creations to EGO. Or in a solipsists view that they are just part of me.

Personally, I feel when people use words like, mystics, shaman, seers, and the like, it is naturally talking from the outside.

I agree but would take it further. Don't you think that using words at all or thinking at all is naturally talking from the outside? How can we avoid it?... on the inside not even time exists. I don't know but I think as soon as we communicate our thoughts in any way we are doing it on a material plane which is very different from the other, mystical, shamanistic or whatever.. it's really difficult to name something that exists outside of language conscious thought.

[Anthony Peake]

My Austrian associates, psychologist Dr. Engelbert Winkler and consultant neurologist Dr. Dirk Proeckl, will be taking part at the "Breaking Convention" at the University of Kent this weekend. They will be directly involved in the workshop "Theoretical Perspectives and Practical Experiences in Psychedelic Therapy". (Chair: Ben Sessa, Room E, 11:30-1:30) and will be demonstrating the Hypnagogic Light Device from 13:10 to 13:30.

Full details can be found at http://www.http://breakingconvention.co.uk/.

I know that this is very short notice but if any of you guys can get along this will be an amazing experience.

[Anthony Peake]

A few weeks ago I received an email from an American artist by the name of Patty Ray Avalon. (http://www.avalonart.net/)

Patty lives in Virginia and she had heard my interview with William Henry that was broadcast on Whitley Strieber's Unknown Country podcast. Patty produces CD's for the Monroe Institute and is fascinated by how Hemi-Sync can assist in the development of creative abilities. (http://www.hemi-sync.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=2402&cat=Patty+Ray+Avalon).

She was fascinated by the things I discussed with William and asked if she could send me her CD set called Inner States - Dawning of Awareness. She explained to me that two sections of this CD may be of interest to me. The first, called "The Limitless Self", seems to be a specifically designed set of audio signals that use hemispheric synchronisation to facilitate contact with our "Higher Self" (i.e. The Daemon). The second, called "Accessing Higher Guidance " is about tapping into the Akashic Record.

Yesterday I received the package and this morning I decided to listen to the first CD.

Within about ten minutes of listening I was moved into quite a deep state of meditation and suddenly a very familiar sensation began, the strange vibrational movement in the centre of my forehead that I first experienced after my encounter with Lucia in Switzerland last year. This was really odd but for me of profound significance. Whatever Lucia does with light it is identical, for me anyway, with what Hemi-Sync does with sound.

I am convinced that if these two processes were used together something extremely profound would be experienced.

It is now an hour after my encounter with Hemi-Sync and the little snake that has been manifest in my "Third Eye" is still moving around with great determination........

Tony

[admin]

As many of you may be aware Anthony will be presenting a lecture at this year's "Weird 11" Conference in Swindon on the 17th September. We are delighted to announce that he will be joined on stage by the ever-beguiling "LUCIA No 3" ... a special guest visting from Austria.

This will be the first time ever that this amazing device will be seen in a public conference in the English-speaking world. Its inventors, Dr. Winkler and Dr. Proeckl will also be an attendance on the day.

This promises to be one of the most significant events in the development of ITLAD/CTF......

Tickets are available direct from http://www.weirdwiltshire.co.uk/weirdstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180.