Mr Erickson wrote:Nicely put Sab the moment people start claiming reality is how it is because their senses tell them so means they are lost in the logical fallacy of circular argument
I fully agree with this statement Mr Erickson, and you will note that I state there is a reality which is interpreted, not that what I see is necessarily what is.
By the same token what you believe is reality whether or not this is because or despite what your senses seem to tell you, is also not necessarily what actually is.
The documentaries like 'do you see what I see' and 'colourful notions' example these perfectly without any mysticism or quantum delusions required.
My point is that generally there is an external reality, which is interpreted and filtered by the senses and the mind, and that what you believe generally only affects your view of it, not the reality itself (although there may be specific exceptions). Someones words may influence others views of it....
Sab : regarding mind defining reality:
The minds preconceptions and world model, applied to the filtered input of the senses, generally defines our view of reality - yes, but again that is our view of it, not what is.
Is blue actually blue, or is it the grey seen by colour blind people?
Commonly it is a specific range of wavelengths which by common agreement is called blue, but to colour blind people its still grey, and to blind people it is nothing more than a concept